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We're questioning internally whether or not to give PayPal any business. With the whole WikiLeaks thing, we're leaning toward NOT using PayPal. BUT we want to hear from you first. What's you're opinion?

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commented 2011-10-27 10:00:44 -0400 · Flag
Paypal sucks. I set-up paypal to collect donations for a charity before and they wouldn’t release any funds until we proved we were a 501(3)c organization, which took a while to dig-up the paper work. Then they wouldn’t release any of the funds collected prior to presenting proof. Later, we decided to use paypla to sell raffle tickets for the same charity and they shut us down saying that they considered raffles “gambling.” Though their terms didn’t expressly state that (and I knew of at least two other organizations that ran their raffles through Paypal).There are plenty of other sites to collect donations that are far more flexible and less subjective. We ended-up using Google Checkout and had zero problems.
commented 2011-10-26 21:40:36 -0400 · Flag
I agree with the posters who have suggested offering both Paypal and other options. You want to make it as easy as possible to donate. The easiest way that I have donated is through a text donation, but mobile giving requires not-so-small up-front fees on the nonprofit’s end, so it is probably not the most cost-effective option.
commented 2011-10-26 19:13:59 -0400 · Flag
Eyes on the prize, eyes on the prize..growing membership. Use PayPal but add other options possibly Xoom and WePay
commented 2011-10-26 16:34:57 -0400 · Flag
As Issa Haddad pointed out in the other thread, Paypal kept money that had been donated to WikiLeaks. That’s definitely worth consideration. I’d like to say that, unlike WikiLeaks, we won’t be doing anything that is even /remotely/ illegal. At the same time, I worry about a few more ridiculous graffitti strikes or something, giving “them” an excuse to take some kind of legal action and get PayPal to do the same to us.
commented 2011-10-26 16:17:33 -0400 · Flag
It is possible also for for people to do direct bank to bank transfers as well. Domestically, you only need to publish the routing number and account number. For transfers from outside the USA, all a donor needs is the IBAN number and the SWIFT code.

That’s how all payments are made in Europe.
commented 2011-10-26 15:19:19 -0400 · Flag
I agree with Chris Stokely’s post above. Ensuring that the donation process is as painless as possible for potential donors is more important than taking a stand against Paypal, at least in these early stages. People who /really/ want to donate would sign up for an alternative service, sure. But how many “impulse givers” would we be effectively turning away?

No matter how many people boycott Paypal, there’s no way to defend the rights of WikiLeaks until we achieve our primary goal, and that’s going to require money to get the ball rolling.
commented 2011-10-26 14:53:06 -0400 · Flag
Sorry, posted reply as a new forum comment.
commented 2011-10-26 14:26:49 -0400 · Flag
I understand the want to boycott Paypal. If there are alternatives, they should be used.

Personally, I don’t have any credit cards and the only way I can use Paypal is with a verified bank account. Are there other services that do this also and are available in Canada?
commented 2011-10-26 13:58:21 -0400 · Flag
It sucks to have to turn people away that want to give money but I would vote against using them. I think WePay is a similar system so if people really wanted they could sign up for that. At the same time I wouldn’t really care either way because the main thing is to get as much money as possible and fix this pathetic system…eye on the prize. (how’s that for a Mitt Romney response)

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